Obama And Supporters Crushed By Clinton Machine?
Let me start out by saying that I respect Barack Obama. He is clearly an intelligent and capable person, who has risen to take his place in the 2008 primary elections due to his political skill. After the Nevada results though, I question his ability to take on both Hillary and Bill Clinton at the same time. Even as Obama tries to energize the youth by campaigning on a message of hope, Bill Clinton continues to accuse Obama and his campaign of electioneering and voter suppression.
If the Clintons do manage to crush Obama through these shameful tactics, I wonder if Obama’s supporters will join the Hillary camp? An interesting component of 21st century political campaigns is the lasting portability of their supporters. Think about it, win lose or draw, Barack Obama has millions of people who support his bid for higher office, and though many of his supporters are already members; the intensity of the 2008 election may fracture the Democratic party and disenfranchise much of his youth base. What do you think?












January 22nd, 2008 at 11:54 am
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Frankly, it seems like the Republicans are more likely to fracture over these primaries, but the Dems aren’t far behind….
January 22nd, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Never underestimate the Democrats traditional capacity for frivolous self-destruction esp in election years. Seems to happen like the birds coming home to Capistrano!! This year the Repubs seem to be adopting that tendency as well. We need to be in a position to offer a legit alternative if people in the rational center start averting their eyes to the 2 party “car-wreck”.
January 23rd, 2008 at 12:49 am
Hillary is a shrew. She will spoil it for all the democrats by being in the race and most of the democrats wont vote the night of election. Bill should shut up, He has had his time . I dont like Hilary at all as a person and they promsies she puts out I dont believe . She is to entreched with the corporations to do the job.
January 24th, 2008 at 10:04 am
I’m torn between two Bill Clinton’s. The President I once admired, and Bubba the irresponsible who forced my admiration into the past tense.
After watching Bubba slime his way through South Carolina, I felt like I needed a shower. Watching the scorched earth politics of the Clintons turned on Barack Obama takes me back to exactly how I felt about President Bill Clinton on two previous occasions: when he caved on lifting the ban on gays in the military, and when the theme for his second term became the Bridge to Unrealized Potential, a result of lies, about sex, that many of us have defended and compared to lies about going to war in Iraq by President Bush.
But at some point, a lie, is a lie, is a lie.
In November many Americans will walk into a voting booth having endured the longest, most expensive, most contentious and most historic election in our history. Based on many factors they will cast ballots. It is fair to suggest that one of those factors should be whether or not the Clinton’s are capable of living in the White House and demonstrating the values of honesty, fidelity. Being a role model is not too much to ask of the First Family.
But Bubba got in trouble before because he couldn’t control himself, just as it appears he can’t now, spinning so wildly the facts are long forgotten. Lying so frequently and so naturally it almost looks like compulsive behavior.
Bubba’s ego can’t stand the fact that Barack Obama is right about Ronald Reagan being a transformational presidency, because while his could have been, because of his own actions, it was not. It was unrealized potential. We can all certainly understand the drive for just one more chance to prove himself, to make up for his earlier failures, and for wanting to go out to defend his wife after putting her through the public humiliation he did.
Bubba wants to claim his ideas were better, and many of them were. But when it came to lifting the ban on gays in the military, he instead codified the closet, satisfied with political compromise where resolve could have won the day. But that would have squandered political capital and jeopardized his ability to get re-elected, and to the Clinton’s, it appears, that all it’s about.
He squandered far more political capital on far less principle in his second term.
There is no better example of why Barack Obama should be the Democratic nominee than watching Bubba during that past few weeks. As progressives crawl across a desert thirsting for not just a win, but the realization of policies and progress promised but denied, not just during the eight years of the Bush administration, but for 12 years having lost Bubba’s second term to scandal, by his actions, he has the audacity to suggest that Barack Obama is not ready to be President. Raising issues of drug use after claiming he didn’t inhale, marginalizing what will be a major Obama victory in South Carolina as a black victory while parading as the First “Black” President, and lecturing the media on what spinning is without defining for them what is is, Bubba is once again putting his ego ahead of Party, Platform and Principle.
If this is about testing candidates to see who is more electable come November, making sure the eventual nominee is battle tested, then let’s talk not about what Bubba’s role will be in another Clinton Presidency, let’s talk about how the GOP will raise the specter of Bubba back on the prowl to polarize an already divided nation.
More importantly, let’s talk, as progressives, about how another Clinton Presidency wouldn’t end up just like the first, with all of us feeling good that we finally won, only to watch our principles compromised and our potential squandered. It’s unfortunate that a brilliant and talented Senator like Hillary Clinton would be judged on the potential for more irresponsible behavior by her husband, but by injecting her husband into her campaign in this way, she begs the questions.
Bubba should check himself into the Jimmy Carter former-President Rehabilitation Center before many in his own party start to see him the way the GOP always has. Slick.
January 24th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Well said Mary! Loved it! Hill better start reigning Billy boy in or Barack will be walking to the nom IMHO. Barack was right on - pradxicially Bill’s Presidency would have been nada if not for the ideas/cover that Gingrich provided. At least Barack has the insight to see that and the diplomatic skills to not overtly point that out. He’s more contebt to let Billy Boy and Hill stew in their jiuces. Bloomie and Barack would be a great team!!